Thread: Why I think you should join the AMA

Many of you have probably been reading the thread on Denver's new anti loud pipes law. Denver restricts loud pipes

In that thread I suggested that anyone who cares about our rights as riders should consider joining the AMA.

I must tell you that loud pipes are NOT favored by the AMA (nor by me, to tell you the truth, at least not straight pipes), but they do and will fight against discriminatory regulations such as this law in Denver, wich apparently singles out loud bike exhausts, ingoring other vehicles. Anyway, the link is below, check it out, see what you think.




http://www.amadirectlink.com/

I have stickied this thread, just for a while.

brian, this may sound mean spirited, but I want you to see the other side of the AMA. the side I have seen in an effort to spearhead direct clinical research. I was on the pathway to publishing a new version of the Hurt report. I wont go into details, but suffice to say, the AMA, SNELL and others may not be all they market themselves to be. I still do support the racer air barrier program they developed, but I no longer belong to the organization. for many reasons, but below is one inparticular.

while I salute your effort to remain an AMA member, please watch and update us if the AMA takes any direct action on behalf of the riders in the Denver area on this legislation.

while you are at it, see if you can find the AMA either developing a position on this matter in any area or state. additionally, see if they came to the help of the 6 goldwing riders in cave creek, az who were sited for a greater than 86db reading by the local police. 6 bikes with complete OEM exhausts, riding to one of the only lakes in N phoenix requires you to pass through their city limits. these guys were cited for the 86db offence. they went to court, brought all 6 vehicles for inspection, DOT stamped exhausts, a licensed mechanic, an accoustics expert and re-enactment video and db readings to the court to show why their was an increase in db; the group collective, constituted the additonal db's just as a group of automobiles do driving in a pack. find out why (in late 2005) how many motorcyclists had been cited for the db offense in cave creek, az and how many autos/trucks had been cited. the number as of late 2005 was 87 bikes, 0 cars, 0 light trucks, 0 commercial trucks. the AMA doesnt want to take a position on something like this because there is nothing in it for them. do they have the financial means? sure they do. its a matter of priority and who it effects. in my opinion, they protect like minded bikers, not the general biking public.

again, not meaning to bash, I just hope you investigate further than the AMA webpage.

JorNic, absolutely no offense taken. I don't think they are perfect either, I just don't see a better alternative out there, I really don't.

I have invited someone from the AMA to join the conversation, we'll see if they respond. I hope i'm not left out here on the end of the rope!

Originally Posted by busabrian

I have invited someone from the AMA to join the conversation, we'll see if they respond. I hope i'm not left out here on the end of the rope!

Very cool brian!!

Originally Posted by busabrian

JorNic, absolutely no offense taken. I don't think they are perfect either, I just don't see a better alternative out there, I really don't.

If I read you correctly, you are saying they are better than nothing right? If that is correct I agree. They help on some issues but steer clear of others.

I think they have an insurance program that isn't to bad (If you get hurt).

An alternative...hmmm...maybe I should enroll in law school and help take a stand on OUR issues once I pass the bar Seriously, I used to want to be a litigator, professional arguer

I've joined the AMA... proud member since 6/6/07. I challenge anyone to show me ANY organization that is the end-all be-all. We all contribute to one insurance company or another and I know from past experience that there are loopholes as big as planets when and if the situation is in the favor of the IC. Look at the fiasco in New Orleans as an example. We'll likely not find a resource that is going to live and die for the cyclists, but the AMA and its programs does what it thinks is in the best interest of the majority. I'm going to give them a shot. IMHO its better to try and fail than to not try at all.

Originally Posted by marine2651

I've joined the AMA... proud member since 6/6/07. I challenge anyone to show me ANY organization that is the end-all be-all. IMHO its better to try and fail than to not try at all.

You said it better than I did. You seem to have a way of doing that a lot.

Sweet a AMA member. Did anyone know that a group buy for Baxley chocks can be done. And a AMA member gets a even better discount.
If you respond saying Baxley doesnt do group buys. Then have a Admin cut and start a new thread.

I was thinking of joining just for that reason.

Now that is cool. If ya join you can donate a few bucks for them to fight for you rights. I just need to decied how many years to sign up for.

Just FYI their website is down so you wont be able to use your credit card online to sign up. I had to call and set it up that way.

I've been a member for 2 years and it's your choice and nobody is forcing you to join. It doesn't hurt to try.

The AMA is working to get Denvers new noise ordinance changed. I'm watching this with interest.

There is also a lawmaker in MD (Bill Bronrott, (D, Montgomery County) who wants to ban sportbikes altogether. I'm watching this too.

Originally Posted by busabrian

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There is also a lawmaker in MD (Bill Bronrott, (D, Montgomery County) who wants to ban sportbikes altogether. I'm watching this too.

I'll go over to his place and say hello.

Originally Posted by BiG-T

I'll go over to his place and say hello.

take about 500 friends with you, tell him you're all voters.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp

Haha, how can somebody actually think they can ban sport bikes. Then there will a whole argument over what a "sport bike" is. And then they'd basically kill a bunch of major companies. Politicians are seriously retarded. Why don't they deal with serious issues like getting my friends home from Iraq before they try to tackle a non-issue.

I`m AMA member myself. I`ve got insurance discount and that`s paid for membership.

I personally don`t believe they will do anything to protect out right...

Originally Posted by NickGT

Haha, how can somebody actually think they can ban sport bikes. Then there will a whole argument over what a "sport bike" is. And then they'd basically kill a bunch of major companies. Politicians are seriously retarded. Why don't they deal with serious issues like getting my friends home from Iraq before they try to tackle a non-issue.

Because they are politicians.

Good luck with your fight. I personally am leaving this country within 5 years.

Originally Posted by Kaosccw

Good luck with your fight. I personally am leaving this country within 5 years.

Really? Where to

Currenly looking at Curaco.

Very nice, do you dive? or speak dutch?

I do dive. They learn 3 languages from 2nd grade on. Dutch, English, and Spanish I think.

I'm going to visit after the new year.